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calumma
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Posted: 15 Mar 2005
I very nearly sent this one to Gemma via the new KRAG online recording form!

A lady from Sevenoaks Local Authority contacted me this afternoon regarding a dead lizard. The animal in question is somewhat larger than the native Kent fauna, coming in at about 3 and a half feet! Although apparently well fed, the front feet were missing. It is not clear whether the animal was dumped dead or alive, but posture suggests that the lizard may have died in situ.

Although clearly a monitor I am not sure which species and wondered if anybody could help.




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Wolfgang Wuster
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Posted: 16 Mar 2005
Lee,

You should contact Dan Bennett - you will find his contact details on his website

Cheers,

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Robert V
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Posted: 16 Mar 2005

 

is it not a Tegu or Togu. I think there are some of those on sale down Jollies in Crews Hill Enfield. 


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Posted: 16 Mar 2005
As an escaped or dumped pet (and from the picture) it's almost inevitably one of the 'Bosc' monitors Varanus alibigularis / Varanus exanthematicus. I'd go for albigularis but they're an African complex of very similar animals and I'm not brave enough to say for sure! It's a shame as the animal looked to have plenty of body weight and big dippy monitors are surprisingly easy to find homes for.

Out of interest, the missing front feet thing strikes as a bit weird. Any evidence to suggest whether this had happened posthumously or not? as to me a foraging hedgehog sounds like a plausible culprit.

Lee.


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Tony Phelps
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Posted: 17 Mar 2005
Definitely rock leguaan V.albigularis. This dark form is typical of the South African lowveld,(Limpopo Prov), they tend to be lighter coloured further north.
They are protected in SA but we know of a dealer who illegally shipped hundreds of babies out in 2002
If body is still available might be useful to take DNA sample.

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calumma
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Posted: 17 Mar 2005
Thanks to everyone for the responses. I emailed Dan and he also confirmed the id to be Varanus albigularis. More info on the species can be found here.

I'm not sure what happened to the body, I suspect it was disposed of - but will check.
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djp_phillips
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Posted: 28 Jan 2006
that's an escaped pet lizard, maybe from aus. or africa
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Dan Kane
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Posted: 29 Jan 2006
A fox or hedgehog, or some other predator probably had it's front feet.
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djp_phillips
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Posted: 30 Jan 2006
Why do you say that, his foot is there... isn't it?
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Dan Kane
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Posted: 30 Jan 2006
No, I don't think it is... look closely... gone below the wrist.
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djp_phillips
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Posted: 30 Jan 2006
ah, yes you're right
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Dan Kane
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Posted: 31 Jan 2006
Always sad to see a dead herp...
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djp_phillips
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Posted: 31 Jan 2006
I see too many:


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Dan Kane
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Posted: 31 Jan 2006
I'm expecting to see some on the Spanish roads, as I have heard too much that Spanish drivers swerve to hit these gorgeous animals...
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djp_phillips
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Posted: 31 Jan 2006
yes! here too, once I almost had a crash on my scooter when a car
swerved to squash what was a long (+ 1.5 m) montpellier snake!!!
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